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(Castle and Leverage spoilers ahead.)

Castle left a foul taste in my mouth last night, I'm sorry to say. I've long been used to the idea that my beliefs about sex are in the minority. But to have an hour full of people basically acting like animals, and glorying in it and flaunting it. . . . And then to have Ryan's fiancee turn up as "Gyrating Jenny" in some manwhore's scrapbook, and the whole team in anguish about whether to tell him, and then have him brush it off because hey, they weren't exclusive at the time, and we're all consenting adults here, right?

Gag me with a spoon.

It's one thing -- it's a great thing -- to love and to forgive. But to not care -- to treat the whole thing as a big harmless joke is just . . . just . . . ugh.

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On the other hand, Sunday's Leverage was epic. I could just sit and look at this screencap (courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] kasiopeia at [livejournal.com profile] provideleverage) all day long.




I don't care what anyone says, I love Nate. Seeing him like this makes me feel bereft. He's lost his son, his marriage, his job, and now his father. Is the poor man ever going to catch a break?

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(Of course, it's possible I take my television way too seriously.)

Date: 2012-01-11 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com
That's not Karl Urban on the left of that screencap, is it?

Date: 2012-01-11 04:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
No, it's Christian Kane.

Date: 2012-01-11 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldvermilion87.livejournal.com
Also, re: Castle. :-(

Date: 2012-01-11 01:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
Yeah. :-( I hate it when good shows do stuff like that.

Date: 2012-01-11 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mosinging1986.livejournal.com
(Of course, it's possible I take my television way too seriously.)

No such thing!

Date: 2012-01-11 05:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 2theriver2pray.livejournal.com
(Of course, it's possible I take my television way too seriously.)

You're not the only one.

Date: 2012-01-11 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy-s.livejournal.com
I have to admit I feel a little differently about Castle. I agree that the fact she did that is gross. It's totally gross, and depressing to think that this is supposedly some kind of normative behavior. But I'm nonetheless glad Ryan didn't hold it against her. I get really sick of seeing men who sleep around (as we know Ryan did in the first season) getting self-righteous and disapproving about it when unattached women do the same. He'd have no right to get angry with her for doing what he and his buddies would do if the genders were reversed.

Date: 2012-01-11 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
I see where you're coming from. Lord knows I'm no fan of the Mark Driscoll "If I'd known she'd cheated on me in high school, I wouldn't have married her!" school of thought. But -- I don't know, I just think of "non-exclusive" very differently. Like maybe you're having dinner or going dancing or just hanging out with several different guys, but not *having sex* with several different guys. (And having them take your picture, and . . . bleah.) I wouldn't have liked to see that from either of them -- I'd have felt the same if it had been his picture in somebody's scrapbook.

Date: 2012-01-12 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valancy-s.livejournal.com
Of course I agree with you on principle. I don't think of dating, whether exclusively or otherwise, as a time to jump right into bed. And I think most people aren't comfortable with multiple concurrent sexual relationships - although I know some who are. I simply meant, I was glad there was no double-standard. (Don't know Mark Driscoll, but I associate that sort of attitude, cringe-inducingly, with Angel Clare.) To my mind, a better and more believable reaction from Ryan would have been mild disappointment, which he then put aside. Perhaps a shudder and then, "But we weren't exclusive yet, so I can't be mad."

Date: 2012-01-12 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
Yeah . . . just anything that treated it as a bigger deal than, say, forgetting to let the dog out! That's really what I was getting at: the idea of not holding it against her, but not treating it as completely trivial, either. Sitting down and talking it out (not that they'd even have to show it, they could just have him tell us about it), or something.

Driscoll is a preacher and author a big chauvinist. If you haven't heard of him, count your blessings!

Date: 2012-01-12 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mosinging1986.livejournal.com
Driscoll is a preacher and author a big chauvinist. If you haven't heard of him, count your blessings!

He's very popular among folks at my church, but I myself don't know anything about him.

Date: 2012-01-12 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
He's popular with a lot of people. It's hard for me to understand why.

Date: 2012-01-12 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tante-in-hp.livejournal.com
I was disappointed with Castle, as well. But, Leverage was marvelous! The several Doctor Who allusions more than made up for all the obligatory Die Hard allusions.

They've had some pretty excellent writing this season. Very clever. And the actors are brilliant. That closing scene was indeed breathtaking. I thoroughly enjoy Leverage. I've appreciated Timothy Hutton since his wonderful work in Nero Wolfe several years ago. He was an excellent Archie Goodwin, but he's an even better Nate Ford.

Date: 2012-01-12 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] litlover12.livejournal.com
We're lucky to have had Hutton in two such fantastic shows! He's such a great actor.

Castle

Date: 2012-01-14 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arkadelos.livejournal.com
I feel so relieved that I don't watch television anymore! All of your complaints is exactly why I wish more people would advertise this blog:

http://blogs.christianpost.com/disciple/

Yes, I am spamming it, but I sincerely love what she says, how she is critical of how sex has become so corrupt, and everything.

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